We Loved Once and True II

Red Dead Redemption 2

Started by Mary

Chadwick Farm, New Hanover

Available after We Loved Once and True I; can be played in a different order

By Joseph Lambert · Updated

"We Loved Once and True II" is a story mission of Red Dead Redemption 2 in Chapter 2: Horseshoe Overlook. It is given by Mary Linton and takes place at Chadwick Farm, just north of Valentine, New Hanover. It becomes available after We Loved Once and True I, in which Mary's letter reaches Arthur Morgan. This guide lists it eighteenth of the chapter's 24 missions, which can be played in a different order.

Arthur sees Mary, his former fiancée, for the first time in years. She is now a widow, and she asks him to bring back her younger brother Jamie, who has joined a religious cult, the Chelonians. The player decides whether Arthur agrees.

Starting pointMary
Map of the area around Chadwick Farm, with the mission's starting point marked Chadwick Farm
Location
Chadwick Farm, just north of Valentine, the Heartlands, New Hanover
Unlocks
We Loved Once and True III, if Arthur agrees to help Mary; one of the missions required for The Sheep and the Goats

Characters

Mary's younger brother, Jamie Gillis, is the subject of the conversation but does not appear.

Story

At the door

Arthur rides to Chadwick Farm, the address given in Mary's letter, and knocks at the door. A woman opens it with a revolver in hand. "Yes?", she asks. Arthur apologizes: "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disturb you ma'am. Is Mrs. Linton in?" She goes back inside to tell Mary: "Mrs. Linton, a caller for you."

The woman is Miss Chadwick. Mary rents a room at the farm.

A weathered two-story wooden farmhouse with a smoking chimney and a small covered porch, a wooden sign reading Chadwick Farm by a fence in tall grass, a shed and snowy peaks in the background
Chadwick Farm, just north of Valentine, where Mary rents a room.

Mary

"Hello, Arthur", says Mary. Arthur struggles to find his words. Mary says she heard that he and his friends were around. Arthur asks where her husband is, without naming him. "Died", she answers. It happened a while ago, of pneumonia. Arthur says he is sorry to hear it.

Arthur then asks whether, now that she is a widow, she has come looking for him. "No, ain't like that, Arthur", she answers. She tells him that she and her family need his help. Arthur reminds her that this is the family that always looked down on him.

Mary explains that the problem is her little brother, Jamie, and that he has broken their father's heart. After Arthur's reply, she tells him: "Don't make me beg you, Arthur." Arthur answers: "My money, my life, me... I wasn't good enough."

Jamie and the Chelonians

Mary apologizes and tells him that Jamie has joined the Chelonians, "that strange religious order". "Good for him", says Arthur. Mary insists: "They're quite mad, Arthur. They'll kill him. You're the only person he'd listen to."

A dark-haired woman in a green striped blouse with a ruffled brown front and a red brooch, and a bearded man in a tan leather jacket, both leaning on the railing of a wooden porch and looking down
Mary and Arthur on a porch.

Mary apologizes again. She tells him that she understands if he does not want to help her, and that she thinks of him often. "A long time ago now", Arthur answers. Mary begs him once more.

Arthur answers: "I say let Jamie live Jamie's life, and not the... nightmare that his daddy dreamed up for him." Mary pleads: "Jamie's so innocent, Arthur. Please, Arthur. Will you help me?" The player then chooses Arthur's answer.

If Arthur agrees

"Where is he?", Arthur asks. Mary answers: "Somewhere out near Carmody Dell, I think. The rancher there said he'd... seen him around the Cumberland Forest." She asks Arthur to bring Jamie to her at the station if he finds him. "I'll see what I can do", says Arthur.

The search continues in We Loved Once and True III, which starts in Cumberland Forest.

Choices and variants

Mary's request

  • If Arthur agrees, Mary tells him where to look for Jamie, and We Loved Once and True III becomes available.
  • If Arthur refuses, he tells Mary that, given their past and the way things ended between them, she needs to find someone else. Mary says she understands, tells him that she misses him and asks him to take care of himself. Part III is then never offered.
  • If the player lets the timer run out without answering, Mary storms back inside, saying that Arthur has not changed much. Part III is lost in this case too.

Later consequences

  • Mary writes to Arthur again in chapter 4, and the opening of her letter depends on this choice. If he refused, she writes that he was perhaps right and that the situation with Jamie has worked itself out.
  • Mary's second letter leads to her second strand of missions, "Fatherhood and Other Dreams", in Saint Denis.
Quotes
  • I always liked Jamie... at least compared to the rest of them.
    Arthur, when Mary mentions her brother
  • Daddy has a heart?
    Arthur, when Mary says that Jamie has broken their father's heart
  • So, I'm too rough to marry into your family... but it's okay to ask me to help in saving your family.
    Arthur, to Mary
  • You already owe me.
    Arthur, if he agrees, when Mary tells him she will owe him
Trivia
  • Arthur does not name Mary's late husband in the conversation. He was Barry Linton.
  • Arthur knew Jamie when he was engaged to Mary, and he taught him to ride.
  • If Arthur is wearing a hat when he arrives, he takes it off and holds it during the conversation, then puts it back on at the end.
  • Two of Mary's lines from this scene come back to Arthur in "A Fork in the Road", in chapter 5, after a doctor in Saint Denis tells him he has tuberculosis: with low honor, her plea quoted above; with high honor, her words saying she thinks of him often.
  • At Chadwick Farm, Mary wears her hair in a low braid; in her later appearances she wears it in a low bun.